The former Navy SEAL who says he fired the shot that killed Osama bin Laden says
he doesn't care if people believe him.
"The most important thing that
I've learned in the last two years is to me it doesn't matter anymore if I am
'The Shooter.' The team got him," Robert O'Neill said in an audio interview with
freelance journalist Alex Quade, a former CNN correspondent, that aired Friday
on CNN's "AC360."
"Regardless of the negativity
that comes with it, I don't give a f***. We got him."
"AC360" obtained the audio
interview from Quade, who conducted a series of interviews with O'Neill over the
past 18 months.
The killing of bin Laden will go
down in history, O'Neill said. "But I don't care if I'm 'The Shooter,' and there
are people who think I'm not. So whatever." Continue...
The audio interview follows an
interview published this week in The Washington Post, in which O'Neill
publicly identified himself as the SEAL who killed the leader of al Qaeda in
2011.
The 38-year-old O'Neill had
previously revealed details of the mission to Esquire magazine. But he was
hesitant to attach his name to the account until his identity was linked to the
story on a military blog earlier this week without his consent.
O'Neill told the Post that other
SEAL team members were involved in the raid, including Matt Bissonnette, who
detailed the group's experiences in his memoir, "No Easy Day," written under the
pseudonym Mark Owen.
O'Neill, who had been serving as
a SEAL for 15 years at the time of the bin Laden raid, had participated in other
missions, but he said he feared this mission would be his most difficult.
In the audio interview with
Quade, he said the members of SEAL Team Six talked about the September 11, 2001,
terror attacks. He and other team members believed they would not return alive
from the mission to get bin Laden.
"Well, you have to go pump
yourself up to go die. So we would talk about this," O'Neill said.
"...(It was a) group of guys who
knew time on Earth was up, so you could be honest with each other. And we all
accepted and nobody was afraid. It was really cool."
He also said when he identified
himself as the shooter to the families of 9/11 victims, they thanked him for
closure.
"He died afraid, and he knew we
were there to kill him. And that's closure," he said in the audio interview.
O'Neill's move to go public is a
controversial one, as it violates an unspoken military rule: Don't seek
attention for your service.
"We do not abide willful or
selfish disregard for our core values in return for public notoriety or
financial gain," said an October 31 letter to the Naval Special Warfare ranks
from commanding officer B.L. Losey and force Master Sgt. M.L. Margaraci.
In the audio interview, O'Neill
says he believes some details about the bin Laden mission, such as how he was
killed, were no longer classified because they had been repeatedly leaked in the
aftermath by high-level officials.
"Once anyone says anything at
that level, it's not classified," he said.
"...I was told by people that I
can't even say I'm a Navy SEAL, so I don't give a f*** what they think."
Twenty-three SEALs and their
interpreter launched the assault on the bin Laden compound just after midnight
on the morning of May 2, 2011. They shot and killed bin Laden's two bodyguards,
one of bin Laden's sons and the wife of one of the bodyguards. They also wounded
two other women.
O'Neill has told his story
before in a lengthy profile in Esquire in 2013, in which O'Neill was described
not with his real name but only as "The Shooter."
In the Esquire piece,
O'Neill/The Shooter was said to have encountered al Qaeda's leader face-to-face
in the top-floor bedroom of the compound in Abbottabad where he had been hiding
for more than five years.
The Shooter said the al Qaeda
leader was standing up and had a gun "within reach," and it was only then that
the Shooter fired two shots into bin Laden's forehead, killing him. That account
was in conflict with the narrative in "No Easy Day."
Another member of the secretive
SEAL Team 6, which executed the bin Laden raid, told CNN's Peter Bergen the
story of The Shooter as presented in Esquire is false. According to this serving
SEAL Team 6 operator, the story is "complete BS."
But in the audio interview,
O'Neill dismissed the criticism.
"Even now, I mean, there are
guys now saying that I am full of s***," he said. "...You only know what you
were told unless you were in the room. And unfortunately for me, there was two
people in the room, and one of us is dead and that's Osama bin Laden."
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